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independent apologises

Postby RuudvanDriver » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:33 am

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health ... 368994.ece

basically the independent (uk paper) are apologising for their previous decriminalisation campaign on the basis that the 'skunk' people are smoking nowadays is causing mental illness on an unprecedented scale. they say 'skunk' bears no resemblance to the cannabis resin of yesteryear (less benzene) on which they based their decrim campaign.

heres some rather worrying quotes they published.

"Psychologist Julie Lynn-Evans, who works with teenagers who have developed paranoia and schizophrenia from smoking dope, says that she would rather her children became addicted to heroin than skunk. At least you can completely recover from a heroin problem, whereas skunk can leave lasting damage. Teenage boys, whose brains mature later than those of girls, are particularly vulnerable"


"Unlike the old-fashioned cannabis of my youth, skunk makes people aggressive: they steal, break into cars and snatch phones. It makes everyone the victim but the true losers are our sons and daughters who literally, where skunk is concerned, risk losing their minds and themselves."


"Cannabis now sells for £43 per ounce on average, a big drop from the 1994 average price of £120 per ounce."

£43? GIVE ME YOUR DEALERS NUMBER (unless he sells soapbar)!

fair enough, they call for greater education on cannabis and put a few good points across but the bullshit in the article makes it laughable. sort it out!
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Postby AmeriSkunk » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:53 pm

yea I've read shit like this from UK online news sites and it's just far fetched bs to try to scare the people who don't smoke into believing that pot cause psychosis, I think they've watched Reefer Madness one too many times
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Postby deliriumt » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:45 pm

also the chav scum (check http://www.chavscum.co.uk if you aint british for a description of what one is :) ) never admit to the 12 or so methamphet spiked pills or whatever they contain at the time that they swallow at least every weekend (every night for some of them) and the ammount of white cider they drink to make themselves aggressive and extremly violent.

for some of them it is a competition to how much speed (amphetamines) or pills they can swallow in one sitting etc.

and when they finally flip their lid and get comitted to a wacko ward in the local hospital and are asked what they partake in do they ever admit about all the chemicals and cheap alcohol no they certainly don't they just blame the weed.

this country has gone to shit because of this stupid goverment wanting to flatten everyone down to the same level and expecting us to bow down to their bullshit.

fucking ASBO nation is what we are now :(


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Postby milehigh » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:59 pm

It's happening in Holland to. PLEASE write a letter to that paper and let them know how you feel. Also, challange their findings and ask for their sources.

We found that the anti cannabis articles here are being written by a secret section of the police force. It is a conspiricy of epidemic proportions. We must start speaking out and challenging these fools.

My gf wrote a great letter to the local Metro paper and it got published. Take the time and make the effort. If more people do, it really could help.

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Postby OkieDoke » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:10 pm

(pasted from the Sensi Seeds forums)


Cannabis-related schizophrenia set to rise, say researchers
Press release issued 23 March 2007

If cannabis causes schizophrenia - and that remains in question - then by 2010 up to 25 per cent of new cases of schizophrenia in the UK may be due to cannabis, according to a new study by Dr Matthew Hickman of the University of Bristol and colleagues, published in Addiction journal.

Substantial increases in both prevalence and incidence of the disease are forecast by the end of the decade, with increases in schizophrenia starting earlier among young men in particular.

The research study matches historic trends in cannabis use and exposure from a national population survey against estimates of new occurrences of schizophrenia in three English cities (Nottingham, Bristol and the London Borough of Southwark). The researchers assess what might happen to schizophrenia cases if we assume a causal link between cannabis use and onset of psychotic symptoms, an association widely recognised by some psychiatrists and researchers and considered recently by the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs.

Exposure to cannabis grew fourfold over the thirty years to 2002, and its use among under-18s by 18-fold, say the researchers. If cannabis use causes schizophrenia, these increases in its use would lead to increases in overall schizophrenia incidence and prevalence of 29 per cent and 12 per cent respectively, between 1990 and 2010. (Incidence is defined as the frequency of new occurrences; and prevalence is the percentage of the population affected by the disease.)

Model projections suggest that if the association is confined to heavy cannabis users only, then approximately 10 per cent of schizophrenia cases may be due to cannabis by 2010. However, assuming an association between onset of the disease and both light and heavy users, then approximately one-quarter of new cases could be due to cannabis.

John Macleod, co-author and academic GP, said: “We need to remember that our study does not address the question whether cannabis causes schizophrenia: this remains unclear.”

Matthew Hickman, lead author of the study, added: “The challenge now is to improve our data on schizophrenia occurrence to see whether the projected increase occurs. This will tell us more about how important cannabis is as a cause of schizophrenia.”


Matthew Hickman, Peter Vickerman, John Macleod, James Kirkbride, Peter B. Jones. Cannabis and schizophrenia: model projections of the impact of the rise in cannabis use on historical and future trends in schizophrenia in England and Wales (2007). Addiction 102 (4), 597-606.

Addiction is a monthly scientific journal, read in over sixty countries and publishing more than 2000 pages every year. Owned by the Society for the Study of Addiction, it has been in continuous publication since 1884. Addiction publishes peer-reviewed research reports on alcohol, illicit drugs and tobacco, bringing together research conducted within many different disciplines, as well as editorials and other debate pieces


John Macleod, co-author and academic GP, said: “We need to remember that our study does not address the question whether cannabis causes schizophrenia: this remains unclear.”

If it wasn't for the rather misleading title to the article, this is exactly the kind of research I'd like to see more of.

You could see this as a roundabout way of showing that cannabis is safer than propagandist sources would have you believe, as rates of schizophrenia will not rise in accordance with the prediction.

There may be an attempt to say that n% of the schizophrenia cases in 2010 are caused by cannabis, but if the overall proportion of the population suffering from the illness is the same as in 2000, and 1980, and 1950 and so on (bearing in mind that the proportion didn't change much throughout the 20th century) then this will be more obvious propaganda.
That, or some other unknown force has been reducing the number of 'normal' occurrences of schizophrenia at exactly the same rate as cannabis has been 'causing' them.

We have a century of good records regarding the prevalence of mental illness in the west (UK, Australia, US), which show that the rate has remained steady throughout that time.Fifty or sixty years into that 100 year period, cannabis was introduced to the west, and its rate of use has skyrocketed in that time. Potency has also increased - perhaps a doubling of average strength, or an increase of 10x or 30x or 100x if you listen to the prohibitionists (the more you believe their claims, the weaker their case becomes).

Somehow, the introduction of cannabis and the increase in potency has had no effect on the prevalence of mental illness in the five decades since the 1950s. But it might in the next 3 years or so? Sure.

The important thing to remember about this particular study is that we're currently living in the apocalyptic future predicted by cannabis prohibitionists of the Sixties. And nothing has happened, according to the data on mental illness. But we should worry about the next two decades and continue to repress adults' freedom of choice.

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