Cannabis Prohibition is dead in Canada

[Virgil]

The biggest and best cannabis story inside the saga of the Free Cannabis Movement is happening in Canada. It is an amazing story because it is so incredible that it challenges your sense of what is real. There are those that say there is Free Cannabis For Canadians right now because the cannabis prohibition laws became dead on July 31, 2001. This is a well-established historical fact even though it would be May of 2003 before the media would inform the Canadian public of the facts. Several court rulings in May of 2003 forced a media reporting frenzy that the CP laws were dead.

What is strange is that the Crown acknowledges the death of their precious CP laws, yet there were 100,000 cannabis-issue convictions when even the Crown admits the laws were dead. There has been no move by the Crown to right this injustice. They just let the criminal records of good people stay there even though they were not in violation of any law.

What is stranger still is how the Crown and the media have somehow resurrected laws that were struck down by the courts. What brought the death of the laws in the first place was Health Canada not providing an epileptic named Terry Parker with cannabis. On July 31, 2000, the courts ruled that Terry Parker’s right to life under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms was at risk due to the failure of Health Canada to provide him access to the cannabis needed because of his epilepsy. It was Terry Parker in the courts that first required Health Canada to come up with a MMJ program. When they failed, he would go back to court to say they failed. The July 31, 2000 would say that the situation was unconstitutional and that Terry Parker had a right to supply and that if Health Canada could not fix its supply problems in one year for people in need of MMJ, then there would be Free Cannabis For Everyone. Health Canada to this day obstructs supplying clinical cannabis and there are 600 approved patients where there are a million in need.

The Crown claims a miracle reincarnation of the dead laws because of some words in the judgment section of a ruling on October 7, 2003 in a Hitzig appeal before the Ontario Supreme Court. The Court did not order a resurrection of sections of the CDSA and it is the orders of the court that have meaning. The judgment is only a line of reasoning the judge is following to come to the orders.

Even if the Ontario Court of Appeals had ordered a resurrection of the parts of the CDSA, it is beyond their authority. It takes a legislature to pass laws and since no new legislation has come, there are no laws against possession, cultivation, or trafficking of cannabis in Canada.

It is my belief that it is just another fraud inside the massive fraud that is Cannabis Prohibition itself. The court case that could break the story open could come as early as Friday with a decision to quash the charges against Mike South in Cochrane. The appointed council says that either she or her partner will make Canadian law history with this attempt to quash for Mike South. It is at the end of message1552 of Turmel at YahooGroups.

It is an all but unbelievable story that I have been following for some time. You can read the story by John Turmel at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/1551 Turmel is the one writing the messages at yahoo. There is thread at the website created by people that ran the John Kerry website that is following this amazing story at http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/ ... topic=6332 I hope you hear that the CP laws in Canada are dead very soon- and maybe on Friday.

[emporer]

One of the cannabis related websites I participate in is out of Amsterdam at HempCity.net.

You might be interested in the thread going on in:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/s ... ost1006982

David Malmo Levine and Eco2man have been cat fighting the past few days, but guess what? - they both agree Turmel is a kook. They offer no substantive answers but have provoked several posters to eloquent defense of the engineering paper pusher.

Everybody's expecting the thread to be struck down, but at least the Cannabis Press is naming his name. The Prince might even make a statement.

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The court case that could break the story open could come as early as Friday with a decision to quash the charges against Mike South in Cochrane.

Mike South is appearing in Toronto court. His case will be heard Monday. Cochrane is a mining town, a few hundred miles to the north. It involves Pierre Drouin, another of Turmel's coachees. Try:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/1520

and

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/1533

[Virgil]

It is somewhat confusing figuring out what Turmel is saying because it involves people and court cases that are presented so casually in his writing.

The idea of kook is not relevant. It was Turmel that engineered the defeat of the possession and cultivation laws in the Parker decision made by Judge Pitt. The subject is discussed in the thread at Common Ground Common Sense using Alan Young's own words.

This is really somewhat of a test for our ability to communicate news throughout the world using the Internet. This is important stuff that Turmel is spouting and it only has three places on the Internet exploring the subject that is definitely the subject of a media blackout in Canada. Does anyone argue that 100,000 people were convicted in the period from August 1, 2001 to October 7, 2003? Even the Crown does not dispute the laws were dead during this time and what has the Crown done to remedy the injustice.

There is plenty of stink in all of this no matter how you look at it. Of course if what Turmel says is true, we should know soon enough. The reason it has taken this long is because we as a reform community did not get the story out for people's defense before the courts in Canada. Now there are people presenting the proper arguments and in some ways our discussion in the three known threads on the subject, including this one, are not as important as it once was.

It is still a great perspective to see through Turmel's eyes. This is a story of giant fraud and media blackout. The reason I put up a thread here is so that people might have a chance to latch on to the story as it unfolds now that it is crunch time.

[Virgil]

Monday, December 20th, is yet another huge showdown and some of us are hoping for acknowledgement by the courts that the cannabis prohibition laws in Canada are unknown to law, meaning everyone will know that cannabis is as legal as tomatoes.

Usually Turmel is hard to understand, but he spent time to get his words straight in the press release he faxed the media about tomorrow's big event. He states it nicely at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/1570



PRESS RELEASE

On Dec. 11 2000, Alberta Judge Acton in R. v. Krieger ruled:
"[44] I am satisfied that s. 7(1) of the CDSA deprives Mr.Krieger
and those who are similarly situated of their rights under s. 7
of the Charter to the extent that it prohibits these individuals
from producing raw cannabis marihuana for their own therapeutic
purposes. I am also convinced that such deprivation is not in
accordance with the principles of fundamental justice...
[55] I am prepared to agree with the Applicant that s. 7(1) of
the CDSA should be struck down to the extent that it deals with
production of cannabis marihuana. If s. 4 were before me I, like
the Ontario Court of Appeal in R. v. Parker , supra , would
strike down the prohibition against possession of marihuana
because to do otherwise would be, to use Dr. Kalant's word,
"inhumane" to Mr.Krieger under the circumstances."
http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/1998 ... qb1012.pdf

On Dec 04 2002 the Alberta Court of Appeal sustained the Acton
repeal of prohibition in S.7 and Parliament has never since re-
enacted any new prohibitions.
App.2:
http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/1998 ... ca0085.pdf

The Calgary Herald and Sun reports misrepresented the striking
down of S.7 and S.4 as a personal victory for Krieger. Calgary
Herald's Daryl Slade wrote that "Krieger's lawyer, Adriano
Iovinelli, said outside court it was an important decision that
permits his client to continue to cultivate and use marijuana for
his own use to alleviate chronic pain caused by multiple
sclerosis. Iovinelli said, as it stands, it is status quo on
Krieger's charter exemption. But he suggested that would not
apply to the general public..

On May 16 2003, the Crown's Memorandum to the Supreme Court of
Canada in Krieger had Counsel S. David Frankel pleading for leave
to appeal because "[57 as matters now stand s.7(1) has been
declared of no force and effect by the highest court in Alberta."
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/kriegcm.txt Repeating:
"[57 AS MATTERS NOW STAND S.7(1) HAS BEEN DECLARED OF NO FORCE
AND EFFECT BY THE HIGHEST COURT IN ALBERTA."

On Dec 23 2003, the Supreme Court denied the Crown's application
for leave to appeal the striking down of the prohibitions. The
fact the media, Crown and defence misrepresent a general striking
down of prohibition as a personal victory for Krieger doesn't
make it so. The Attorney General for Canada has known about the
prohibitions on marijuana having been repealed since the highest
court in Alberta struck them down.

On Monday Dec 20 2004, an application by Mike South for release
pending appeal on the basis of the Krieger repeals will be heard
at Osgoode Hall in Toronto at 10am. An application to have the
Crown cited for contempt of court until all prisoners jailed
under the invalid statute will also be sought.

[Virgil]

There seems to be confidence in the Turmel engineering at the yahoo.groups. It seems that a website is asking for someone to present the story on the laws in Canada as they regard this as a hot button issue and need an explanation of the treason going on. The real question that needs an answer is how strong-armed is Canada by the DEAth and the US Empire.

There was good news yesterday for the MedPotters. Sativex could have market authorization in January. There is a certainty to report. They act like it just needs a rubber stamp so that Free Cannabis meets the pain and suffering.

What is great about the Canadian situation is the call for justice on those that perpetuated a fraud of a fraud. They lied about their beloved prohibition and it seems like the remedy of institutionalized injustice is now part of the future story.

What makes the approval of Sativex so important is that it is a blow to the head of the chanting prohibitionist on the stonewall position of no medical value. It also raises the question of what this means to Marinol. The most dramatic showdown is when GW Pharmaceuticals wants to sell THC in sesame oil. What is that going to do to price? Will lower price Sativex be a better substitute than whatever they call Marinol in Canada? What will the MedPot expertise contribute to clinical cannabis and who is going to make money selling clinical cannabis to the million of Canadians in line for their cannabis solutions.

The Sativex solution is just one of many solutions soon to come. It seems this is such a big development that there will have to be some kind of engineering on this.

Turmel has reported on the victory on Monday. It seems what was defence/defense before the courts has now turned to offense. There have got to be some highly troubled high profile public servants in Canada over this.

The "Get out of jail" card is all the rage. It is floodgate time. I believe that there will be activism on the courthouse steps in the next few weeks when the prisoners get their freedom back. The silence is about over and the conversations will turn to the injustice. The pot snickering is over and Canada is about to experience a massive conversation on Free Cannabis. For some it will happen at every chance.

[Guest]

"How will things be different when Miracle Plant is regulated?"

it will probably cost more, if the government get interested in it.

[Virgil]

Richard Cowan said he would address the issue of the MMJ laws in Canada and he has- http://tinyurl.com/4qfjh He was assisted by Philippe Lucas and he put Lucas's writing up on a seperate page- http://tinyurl.com/4vv4b

[Virgil]

Cultivation in Canada falls under Section 7 of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. There was a ruling that went all the way to the Alberta Court of Appeals that held that Secion 7 was no longer known to law. The Crown would appeal that to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court did not take the appeal, meaning they agreed that cultivation was dead in Canada.

It took a long time for someone to present that fact when charged with cultivation. That act came today when Richard and Suzanne Johnson made a motion to quash the charges against them because there is no prohibition of cultivation in Canada. The Crown wanted the judge to dismiss the motion to quash on the grounds it had no merit. The judge did not agree with the Crown and will rule next Tuesday on the demise of Section 7 cultivation by the rulings in Krieger.

There will be another challenge on the existance of the laws against Section 4 possession laws this Friday by Doug and Laurie Nielson in Ontario. Section 4 laws were struck down by a Terry Parker decision that went to the Ontario Court of Appeals. The striking down of these laws is well acknowledged by the Crown to have come on August 1, 2001. On October 7, 2003 three judges on the Ontario Court of Appeal struck down five sections of the Medical Marijuana Access Regulations and ruled that with those adjustments the MMAR would be constitutional. Somehow the Crown has used this ruling to claim that this revived the laws that were already acknowledged as being struck down because of their unconstitutionality. Even if there were some Immaculate Resurrection that converted a line of reasoning that did not even have the judges' order into a legislative act that created new laws, Health Canada has restored two if not three of the five sections of the MMAR to current policy.

The Ontario Court of Appeals said in Hitzig that there could be not prohibition unless there was a constitutional system for delivery of marijuana for those that need it. Even if there were an Immaculate Resurrection, the prohibition laws would fall again if challenged properly because Health Canada has failed to provide marijuana where the courts have ordered them to do so.

This is a story of corruption of government and a complicity by the media. Legal cultivation implies legal possession. Legal possession implies that Section 5 trafficking is also dead. The motion to dismiss the charges on grounds that Krieger ended cultivation prohibition in Canada was made in court today for the first time. This Tuesday is historic.

[Virgil]

Tuesday was a big day when the Johnsons presented the Krieger ruling for their defence. That was in a provincial court which means that even if acknowledgement came of the laws are dead, it would have to be appealed to have bearing on other cases. Tomorrow is different because the Nielsons will be before a Superior Court.

There was a motion by Turmel to have the courts find the highest attorney for the Crown held for contempt and have everyone on cannabis charges released. It was not considered because it was not the proper court. A total victory tomorrow would mean the court acknowledges the laws are dead and all the cannabis prisoners will be ordered to be released.

Turmel spent some time in making a clear Message8667- http://tinyurl.com/6e34e Sometimes he is hard to understand, but not this time. . You might as well read Turmel in his own words on this. There is another good sign that we are developing our communiications over the Internet as the message has sunk in at Overgrow.com Turmel copied it and commented on that in Message8670- http://tinyurl.com/627vr It is a good summary of the situation and once we get some words down, it is always there for someone to improve on.

Turmel puts his messages up at two places- one is his alone and the other is discussion. I see that the Overgrow crowd has a legal scholar that has set off some immediate responses by Turmel, as he is up to 5 Messages tonight where usually there is only one or two. His personal messages have 1619 and 1620 dedicated to analyzing that discussion- http://tinyurl.com/68d2c\

Well, you can see it is a big day as total victory means Free Cannabis For Everyone in Canada and the opening of the jails to release the cannabis prisoners. Turmel made his early reputation as a gambler, so the following remark that is used to end Message8668- http://tinyurl.com/5lq4h - shows some real seriousness about the immediacy of the situation.

I'm betting the prohibition of marijuana falls by Tuesday at even money. Any takers to bet that it survives?

[Virgil]

It seems a judge told RevTarzan last Friday that the laws on possession and cultivation have been stricken. He did not extend this to the section 5 trafficking laws. The only information out there on it is here- http://tinyurl.com/6shcq

Suzanne Johnson mentions the Friday ruling when she says the ruling anticipated today at Elliot Lake was again postponed. This is her entire take in her Message8767- http://tinyurl.com/4jpx9

Richard surprised the Judge today with a ruling made in North Bay on Friday. It was short and sweet. She then heard 2 other cases before recessing for 5 minutes. Upon her return, she needed more time to review this matter before making a ruling. Our next court date is February 1st, 2005. She's on the spot, I think!!! LOL

The showdown with the Nielsons last Thursday was a bust as the judge did not read the files before the case and the Crown's attorney misguided him to reach a decision that will now be appealed. You can read more about it in Message132 at http://tinyurl.com/3l9tr

[Virgil]

Terry Parker brought us Terry Parker Day. Here is an epileptic that had the government operate on his head instead of giving him cannabis of clinical grade and he Marc Paquette and John Turmel still stug away at telling the people of Canada and whoever will listen that the cannabis laws in Canada have yielded to Free Cannabis, even though Health Canada has done nothing to deliver No Cannabis to everyone.

Marc Parquette does an extenstive list of cannabis articles from across the world. Here is an example of the news for today done by Marc Paquette.. Paquette is disabled but he has an archive of Canadian articles that is superior to all I would say. This link goes to the Medpot links for today- http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/8817

Turmel is third member of the trio pictured on the Medpot homepage- http://www.medpot.net/ We all know him too. Most know believe that possession and cultivation laws have been acknowledged by a judge in Noth Bay. The defendant is charged with only trafficking which is a Section 5 and is the only thing left standing. The transcripts are been sought for publication to the Internet.

But this day belongs to Terry Parker with this letter to yet another editor- http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/8819

Terry Parker Jr.
2209-55 Triller Ave.
Toronto, Ont. M6R-2H6
416-533-7756

Dear Editor,

Re Election if necessary. If Mr. Paul Martin defends the charter as he says he does, then why is the Parker and Krieger decision being trampled upon, by the Attorney General of Canada, and the police? These court decisions have struck down our marijuana laws as unconstitutional, when in violation of section seven of the charter. Yet almost every day we hear of police busting marijuana growers. As a result, we have a epileptic fatality rate of 2400-4600 deaths, each and every year in Canada. This is outragous. The prime minister will have a election on same sex marriage,while at the same time, trampling upon the rights of marijuana consumers across Canada. If we can have a vote on same sex marriage, then equally, we should have a vote for the legalization of marijuana, since the Prime Minister of Canada has abdicated his duty, to protect the people of Canada.

Sincerely, Terry Parker Jr.
Marijuana Candidate
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/timeline

[Virgil]

How would you categorize the storm that is brewing between us “The Herd” and the treason that rules us. It's Our Herd against a bunch of alphabet agencies that serve “The Company.” It’s Our Herd verses The Company on display in Canada right now with a non-existant cannabis prohibition..

There are several important points made by Turmel in Message1641&1642. Message1641 contains actual forms used before the courts. Now please think how important this is to people to help people. It cannot be stopped as people become more familiar with the forms and accept what we know is true. The heading of this thread is “Cannabis Prohibition is dead in Canada.” Don’t you think that is big news? This is the super media blockade on this story. There are going to be civil cases against the Crown for imprisoning people when the laws have been dead for some two years now. Possession and cultivation are legal and the Crown’s attorney Frankel and even the Judges on the level of Ontario Court of Appeals and Alberta Court of Appeals knew the laws was dead.

This is the hugest of stories. and the court cannot take the burden of people taking these forms to get people out of jail . Think what happens to the system when people start asking for damages and then how about some criminal prosecution on the government that lied yet again.. There are too many people in two many places pushing the courts and spreading truth across the Internet. Turmel’s Message1640 was about going to Quebec to free Dominic Gravel out of jail.

Turmel Message1640

He was charged last with July 29 2004 with S.7(1)
cultivation and S.5(2) possession for the purpose of
trafficking (same as SCC Turmel #30571 appeal). Because of
his previous record 2 convictions, he was refused bail by
the provincial court judge!!!

He's done 6 months dead time and he hasn't even had his pre-
trial! For cultivating herb. Makes me want to puke.

Gravel has been in jail months without trial for growing Free Cannabis. Sounds like a lawsuit against the Crown to me.

Turmel Message1640

So let the Bench know that The Engineer is ready to take up
everyone's time all the way to the top to get this non-
violent gardener out of dead time in jail.

And best of all, the Quebec media are the only media who
exhibit any fascination by the moves of John Turmel. Any
bets that Krieger breaks into the media consciousness?

Especially with a decision on a Krieger challenge coming up
on Feb 1 in Elliot Lake. Won't a judge look stupid if he
keeps Gravel in and the judge in Elliot Lake strikes it down
5 days later?

Turmel Message1642- http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/1642

On Feb 01 2005, Judge Serre will be ruling on an identical
motion to quash three S.7 cultivation charges as unknown to
law in Elliot Lake Ontario. There are 12 Krieger challenges
going on in Ontario, B.C., soon Manitoba, and now Quebec.
The Krieger scandal of a quarter million bogus busts while
the Crown quietly argued the law was invalid is the biggest
judicial scandal in Canadian history.

Also on the same day as Dominic Gravel's motion for release
pending quash of S.7 and S.5(2) charges with Krieger is to
be heard the motion to quash of S.5(2) with Krieger by
Michael Ethier in Sturgeon Falls Ontario. All based on the
Krieger Supreme Court of Canada Ace:

And it's all coming out now, Gatineau, Sturgeon Falls,
Elliot Lake, Comox Valley BC, Manitoba, people getting angry
at finding out that the Ministry of justice lost their case
and knew the law was unconstitutional and declared of no
force and effect and did not tell nor call off the cops.
Why? Because nobody knew because the two reporters gave them
the chance to hide it.

Check out the documentation. Heads are about to roll at the
Ministry of Justice, maybe at a few newspapers too.

John The Engineer, 819-776-8888#202 until Thursday Jan 27

The story of Americanazi involvement is yet to surface. I guess we will be hearing a lot of national security bulll crap in the Overseers treason trials. And let me remind our Europeans that many of us know Bu$h is a puppet for the Emire that wants to command the world from space and follow every financial transaction on the planet. Ther Census department ignores the limits the Constitution put on it to take a sensus every 10 years. They are now sending out 24 page survey booklets to ask about you and fine you like 500 dollars per wrong answer Not answering a question is $100 I kinda think. Many people will protest this overstepping of federal power to a level of super treason. by answering the number of people in the dwelling. They will get personal visits to intimidate people into submission and will read questions expecting answers. Somebody has to read to the one in three illiterate adults. They will make phone calls. So what is a thousand unanswered questions except $100,000 fine. What kind of treason is this? Isn't that like oppression, dude? What is a bankrupt Empire to do except go for totalitarianism now?

It's like I always say. We are ruled by treason. Candian officials may well see prison. Cannabis Prohibition is a revolting idea.

Today's BS- CANNABIS PROHIBITION- It's a revolting idea

[Virgil]

This Saturday Turmel is up to Message1651. In 1651 Turmel presents the three court events of next week. Tuesday will be the Johnson’s Krieger challenge at Elliot Lake. On Wednesday the 2nd Turmel will go to court for himself on his section 5 trafficking charge involving the 3 kilos he was distributing on Parliament Hill. He will move to quash the charges. This publicity stunt was after the May, 2003 rulings that forced the media to acknowledge the laws were dead. Then Thursday the 3rd, the grower of 4000 plants in Quebec, Dominic Gravel, will file a motion to be released because of the uncertainty that there is a law to charge him with.

The Quebec media have given some coverage to the challenges on the existance of the laws and they are the real highlight of the past week. They may not have fully grasp the immenseness of the implicitions, but they are aware that something big is in front of them. The Krieger challenge is all just a stew waiting for doneness.

Message 1650 concerns the media finally covering what the Johnson’s are saying except that the report is deficient because it says they are only challenging the existence of possession laws and omits the fact that Krieger struck down cultivation laws. It is the news from Quebec with Turmel in the aid of Gravel that has done some damage already.

Last Thursday, Turmel was at the hearing for Gravel. Gravel should have dropped his attorney for the offense challenges, but did not. If Gravel was representing himself, the Crown would have been responsible for filling out the form to get him to court. Since, he did not drop the attorney, it was his attorney’s responsibility to get the form filled out for delivery of Gravel to court. The attorney did not fill out the form and Gravel did not make it to court. All of that is off until this Thursday.

Turmel has past experience with many of the players that show up in court. Turmel was born in Quebec and speaks French. He knew Gravel’s attorney, Jacques Belley, from earlier days. These are Turmel’s words at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Me ... ssage/1650

So I went to the Registry to check how it works for
prisoners without lawyers and lo and behold, there's Jacques
Belley. He was teed off because the CBOFT-TV reporter had
told him I'd said he'd been fired. Belley said I was
dreaming to get him out on recog. I told him clearly that
he was being laid off to be called back to do his expertise
on defence after the kid had spent a couple of years doing
my expertise on offence. I love that line too.

I then pointed out I wasn't mad at him for not knowing about
Krieger since it had been hidden. But I would be mad at him
for not wanting to know about Krieger.

I showed him the Appendixes 2,5,10, Alberta strikes down
S.7, Crown Frankel admits it, Supreme Court backs it. He
said "You're telling me that S.7 of the drug laws is gone?"
I said "yes." He said "So home come it's still in the
Criminal Code?"

They tricked him and the bench and he should be mad about
it. That's what the scandal was about. I could have answered
that Justice Doherty must have gone to a different law
school because lawyers like Jacques expect the Code to be
precise and Doherty said they didn't have to do a reprint,
the judges would remember which laws in the book were no
longer valid and which still were. Of course, the judge said
that in the unheralded but now oft-used Turmel Aitken loss
that established that they don't have to reprint new
legislation when laws are striken down, judges and lawyers
can remember.

I told him he had the right to be pissed off at the Crown
and at the media for having been tricked. Even I was tricked
for more than year so how can I be mad? So if I didn't
notice it too, how much blame can I hold to the lawyers who
expect the law in the book to be up to date and precise.

Anyway, I told him it wasn't too late for him to take over
the challenge and save me the trip back to Ottawa next week.
I'd much prefer having a senior attorney who admits he and
the bench were taken in by the scam to the kid who has to
convince the bench and the bar blew it all alone.

So there's no story other than the story has been put off
till next week but can't be ducked.

[Virgil]

The nation of Quebec will deal with the bogus laws soon enough. Message1652 this Sunday tells of the showing of the DVD movie "Turmel" in Toronto that will also have a half-hour video of the Turmel Timeline concerning the pertinent court cases in Canada. The inevitable news that the prisoners have grasp the situation has arrived from Quebec. What is it that a prisoner with 24 hours a day wants to talk about most if not the way out of the big house? The prisoners are calling their lawyers and the situation is ripe for some big lawsuits against the government for imprisoning people with bogus laws that were unjust before they were found to be unconstitutional.

From Turmel Message1653- http://tinyurl.com/4kynl

JCT: It's the big one all right. Kid Gatineau tells me that
Krieger has hit the prison grape-vine. They're calling their
lawyers to find out about it because they didn't know the
law was dead when they were convicted. So you can see how
the prisoners would get excited as the news starts down the
prison grapevine but how the lawyers would be less so.
Dominic says they're all scared to comment on it but
everybody's waiting to see what happens on Thursday. Dom's
starting to get a taste of how his "second biggest garden"
is going to be the "biggest cause celebre" Quebec has ever
seen. I've heard there are at least 4 more prisoners who
will get out if Krieger is found to rule in the nation of
Quebec if not the nation of Canada. Yet. Let Quebec lead the
way and show those Anglos that no bunch of Ontario judges
are going to foist their new resurrected law on Franco-
Quebec when our National elected Parliament still has
trouble. No, I don't think the Hitzig judge's resurrection
is going to go over very well if the Crown tries to bring it
up. Har har har har.

[richard johnson of elliot]

ON F EBRUARY 1 , 2005 10AM ELLIOT LAKE ONTARIO - HALFWAY BETWEEN SUDBURY AND SAULT STE. MARIE- JUDGE SERRE TO MAKE RULING ON RICHARD JOHNSON AND FAMILY'S MOTION TO HAVE THERE SECTION 7 CULTIVATION -- SECTION 4 BY IMPLICATION --SECTION 5.2 ---AND POSESSION OF RESIN CHARGES TOTTALLY QUASHED AND ELIMINATED FROM ANY POLICE OR GOVERNMENT RECORDS. JOHN TURMEL DESERVES THE MAJORITY OF THE CREDIT ,IF NOT FOR ALL HIS GREAT EFFORTS THERE WOULD OF BEEN A GOOD CHANCE OF ME AND MY FAMILY BEING CONVICTED ON MARIJUANA CHARGES AND POSSIBLY JAIL TIME OR PROBATION. THE MOTION I USED TO FIGHT MY CHARGES WAS FAIRLY SHORT AND CLEARLY SHOWS ALL THE SIGNED JUDGEMENTS SHOWING THE STIKING DOWN OF THE CURRENT MARIJUANA LAWS IT ALSO SHOWS THE SIGNED DOCUMENT FROM CANADAS TOP CROWN PROSECUTOR DAVID S. FRANKEL WAS WELL AWARE OF THE CURRENT MARIJUANA LAWS BEING STRUCK DOWN THROUGH THE WAYNE KRIEGER CASE AND WAS EVEN REJECTED HIS CHANCE TO APPEAL TO THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA BY 6 OF 9 SUPREME COURT JUDGES , WHICH MEANS THAT THE COURT OF APPEALS STIKING DOWN THE CURRENT MARIJUANA LAWS , STANDS . THE MEDIA HAVE BLACKED OUT ALMOST TOTAL COVERAGE OF THE WAYNE KRIEGER WIN IN ALBERTA COURT OF APPEALS , WHICH COINCIDES PERFECTLY TO THE GOVERNMENT MEDIA BAN ON ANY THREATING CASES INTHE LAST FOUR YEARS AND ESPECIALL SINCE TERRY PARKER DAY AUGUST 1 2001. PLUS DAVID S. FRANKEL PURPOSELY MISLEAD THE CALGARY HEARALD AND THE CALGARY SUN IN TO BELIEVUNG IT WAS A PERSONAL WIN FOR KRIEGER AND NOT FOR THE GENERAL CANADIAN PUBLIC. THIS IS BULLSHIT THE KRIEGER WIN SETS LAW PRECEDENCE , THE STRIKING DOWN OF SECTION 7 IS FOR ALL OF CANADA. IF THE JUDGE SAYS NO THEN ME AND MY FAMILY AND JOHN TURMELL AND THE REST OF OUR MIGHTY WARRIORS MAY WELL HAVE TO GO TO OTTAWA WITHIN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AND TAKE A TRIP TO THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA AND THE CROWN PROSECUTORS OFFICE AND HAVE THIS VERY DISHONEST AND CORRUPT MR. DAVID S. FRANKEL CITED FOR CONTEMPT OF ABUSE OF POWER AGAINST THE ALBERTA COURT OF APPEALS THE ONTARIO COURT OF APPEALS AND THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA. IF THE JUDGE SAYS NO, THE JOHNSON FAMILY WILL WITHIN 3 DAYS HEAD TO THE SUPERIOR COURT LEVEL AND ASK FOR A WRIT OF PROHIBITION AGAINST PROSECUTION ON THERE CHARGES AGAINST THEM AT THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL [FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT UNDERSTAND THIS TERM , IT SIMPLY MEANS THAT MY CHARGES WILL BE PUT ON HOLD UNTILL WORKED OUT AT THE SUPERIOR LEVEL, OR POSSIBLEY THE ONTRIO COURT OF APPEALS LEVEL OR THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA LEVEL] THIS ALL DEPENDS IF WE GET SHUT DOWN BY ELLIOT LAKES PROVINCIAL JUDGE LOUISE SERRE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PASS THIS LETTER ALONG TO ANY OTHER FORUMS OR INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING THE TRUTH THAT ALL CURRENT MARIJUANA LAWS ARE " AS UNKNOWN TO LAW " AND ITS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THE MEDIA BAN WILL BE LIFTED THIS WEEK AND THEN THE S..T WILL REALLY HIT THE FAN FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTRY TO THE OTHER. ANYBODY INTERESTED IN THE LARGEST GOVERNMENT SCANDAL IN CANADIAN HISTORY CAN CONTACT ME AT EL_SUNSET_WARRIOR@HOTMAIL.COM THANK-YOU FOR READING AND TAKING AN INTEREST NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY MAY TELL YOU INCLUDING FAMOUS LAWYER ALLAN YOUNG OR WANNA-BE POLITICIAN ALLISON MYRDEN OR PRINCE OF POT MARK THE NARC EMMERY FAMOUS PUBLISHER OF CANNABIS CULTURE OR MR. TELVISION HIMSELF MOSES ZNAMIR OF CITY -TV. I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THESE AND A SMALL HANDFULL OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE A HIDDEN AGENDA TO TRY AND KEEP ALL POT ILLEAGEL AS IT WOULD THEN SEEM THERE NEW COMPANY CANNASAT WOULD PROFIT TREMENDOUSLY AS IT APPEARS THEY ARE TRYING TO CORNER AND MONOPOLIZE THE ENTIRE MEDICAL MARIJUANA TRADE IN CANADA, THE PHARMICIES WOULD THEN ONLY BE ALLOWED TO BUY AND SELL ONLY CANNASAT MARIJUANA PRODUCTS. IF THIS DOESNT SOUND AS CORRUPT TO YOU AS IT DOES TO ME , THAN MAYBE YOU SHOULD E-MAIL THIS LETTER TO A SMART FRIEND WHO CAN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU ,[NO INSULT INTENDED] HAVE A NICE DAY. SINCERELY RICHARD JOHNSON AND FAMILY E-MAIL el_sunset_warrior@hotmail.com