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Italy makes a complete U turn on drugs and cannabis!

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Italy makes a complete U turn on drugs and cannabis!

Postby cannabinol » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:26 pm

Italy: Web: Italy Marches Bravely into 20TH Century
by Phillip S. Smith, Editor, (05 Dec 2003) Drug War Chronicle Italy

Government Proposal Would Recriminalize Drug Possession, Including Marijuana

Ten years ago this April, Italians voted to decriminalize simple drug possession. Now the rightist government of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi wants to undo that, and then some. A proposal floated by Deputy Prime Minister Giancarlo Fini, leader of Italy's former neo-fascist party, and approved by Berlusconi and his cabinet in mid-November, would make possession of even the smallest amount of drugs an offense, and possession of more than the "daily minimum dose" of even marijuana could lead to a six-year prison sentence.

People arrested with amounts varying with the drug, but in all cases less than a half gram, of cocaine, ecstasy, heroin, or even marijuana would face administrative penalties including confiscation of their passports and loss of drivers' or arms-carrying licenses. Foreign residents arrested with small amounts would lose their residency permits.

The announcement of the government proposal was followed by a series of high-profile raids in Rome targeting celebrities in sports, the media, and political circles. Among those arrested was 82-year-old former prime minister and Senator for Life Emilio Colombo, busted as an alleged cocaine consumer.

While, contrary to perceptions among some in the US, Europe is not a truly "drug tolerant" continent, the Fini proposal would, if adapted, give Italy some of the region's toughest drug laws. For one thing, it abolishes the distinction between "soft" and "hard" drugs, treating marijuana as if it were as dangerous as cocaine. It is also part of an emerging prohibitionist trend among rightist European governments. The Spanish government of Felipe Aznar is moving to suppress pro-pot publications, and even the current conservative Dutch government is moving to restrict access to coffee shops by foreigners.

The proposal is particularly harsh on marijuana. It allows administrative sanctions instead of criminal penalties for people caught with 500 milligrams of cocaine, 300mg of ecstasy, but only 250mg of marijuana. And, taking a cue from US drug warriors such as Rep. Mark Souder ( R-IN ), who is preparing to introduce a bill with similar provisions ( http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/312/harsh.shtml ), marijuana penalties will be based not just on weight but on the amount of THC in the seized drug.

And although the proposal has aroused a storm of criticism in Italy, where, according to the European Monitoring Center for Drugs and Drug Addiction ( http://www.emcdda.eu.int ) nearly 10% of Italian young adults smoked marijuana in the last year, and must still clear parliament, it appears assured of success. All four parties in Berlusconi's governing coalition, which controls both legislative chambers, support the proposal.

"Taking drugs is not an innocuous exercise of freedoms that cannot be curbed, but a rejection of the most elementary duties of the individual towards the various communities in which he or she actually lives," said the cigarette-smoking Fini, providing a concise lesson in neo-fascist values. "The joint of 10 years ago had an active ingredient of not more than 1.5%. Today, you can find them with as much as 15%," he added, using a page from the US drug czar's playbook. "That is how the devastating and progressively less reversible effects of cannabis on physical and mental health are being multiplied."

But while the government is behind the proposal, not everyone agrees in a country where soft drug use has been increasingly tolerated and one guest on a prime time TV program recently lit up a joint to press for less, not more, restrictions on marijuana. One of that program's hosts, Paolo Kessisoglu, told the Guardian ( UK ) the government would have a fight on its hands. "It's plain as day that, even if the law gets through, it's going to be impossible to enforce."

And while some segments of the Catholic Church, which is heavily involved in drug treatment in Italy, welcomed the proposal, others, including some involved in drug treatment were harshly critical. "The philosophy underlying the bill is that of the authoritarian father who doesn't know how to cope with his son, so takes a strap to him," Monsignor Vinicio Albanesi, president of the Capodarco treatment community, told the Guardian.

The Italian Radical Party, which sponsored the 1993 referedum decriminalizing drug possession, is preparing to fight. "We do not accept this proposal, it is a piece of totalitarian statecraft" said Marco Cappato, Member of the European Parliament and coordinator of Parliamentarians for Anti-Prohibitionist Action at the European Union. "First, there will be a confrontation in the Italian parliament," he told DRCNet. "There is still a chance to modify this proposal's most repressive aspects -- there are some critics even within the government. But there are also people in the opposition parties who support the proposal, so it is entirely possible it will pass as is."

Parliamentary action will be matched with civil disobedience, Cappato said. "We will try to combine this with CD actions," he said, "perhaps handing out hashish in various cities. We also want to show the harm this has done and will do," he added. "With these raids, they are trying to show that the law is the same for everybody, they are trying to show a hard line and show the public the people they have destroyed. But when they arrested Emilio Colombo, who admitted using cocaine for two years for therapeutic purposes, that caused a big stink."

And if all else fails, there could be another referendum effort, Cappato said. "It would be a huge task, and more difficult than 10 years ago because we now have no access to the media on these issues. But the Italian Radicals are preparing for that eventuality," he added.

Cappato also had a cautionary note for drug reformers in the US. "Americans need to understand that yes, the war on drugs is worse than the tolerant climate in Europe, but that tolerance came from left-wing governments and is not here to stay," the anti-prohibitionist said. "Stopping at tolerance is short-sighted. Without legalization of some sort, being tolerant eventually gives an opening to the political opposition to attack you as soft on drugs or soft on crime. If you don't stand firm for legalization, sooner or later you are on the defensive. That is what is happening now in Italy, and Holland, and Spain."
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Postby young wallace » Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:26 am

What must they be thinkin',

Making decisions on a hard nights drinkin'


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italian u turn

Postby sensibill » Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:29 pm

hi nol
i thought that italy was a signatory of the frankfurt convention. wich says that the issues of drug use will not be used as a political tool.
if they are a signatory will this prevent these fascista from realising their blinded views.
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One word....

Postby cannabinol » Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:05 pm

Berlusconi, he does not only rule Italy, he owns it....
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FACIST BASTARD

Postby OLD TIMER HOBBIT » Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:37 pm

I hope Belisconi goes the same way as musilini and is hanged from a lamppost
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Postby cloud » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:58 pm

damn so what is the lateest on this issue in italy.
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italy's "hardline" proposal

Postby qahouaji » Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:03 pm

they haven't voted on it yet, but according to uk420 they will be sometime later this year.

this is one we CANNOT allow to pass unopposed. the fate of hundreds of thousands of Italians and MILLIONS of tourists lies in the hands of this insane bill. If this bill passes, Italy will simply lose all of its tourism. Not because the tourists are all on drugs, but because tourists will have considerably less reason to trust the process of law in what has always been known as a country that has many corrupt charges of authority.

the beauty of the cathedrals and the exaggerated tenor voices at restaurants will do nothing to allay the absolute fear of many tourists that such a move translates into totalitarianism, and that would mean Italy is a dangerous place to visit. I would never go there if this bill passes. And it's a step in the WRONG direction--250 MILLIGRAMS???!! Has anyone heard anyhing so f#%king absurd for legislation? That's less than half a joint!! It's obviously a fascistic move designed to crush unrest against a visibly corrupt and power-hungry government.

So let us stand in faith with our Italian friends and colleagues. Italy to date has a fine cannabis culture, and this law would distort and destroy it, or make Italy itself an evil society. It's not a small country, 60 million people live there.

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civil disobedience agaist this law

Postby eddy » Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:24 pm

Hi
i live in Italy,so i can give you some extra infos on this matter.
In Italy there is a wide tolerance towards cannabis and hash consumers.
I live in Milan and if if you go out for "aperitivo" or to drink something espetially in Summer you will see a lot of people smoking pot outside the clubs or in the parks..everywhere.
Everybody smokes here and police knows very well that they cannot face the problem because it's too late...and because it's not a social problem like alcohol in other countries.
For example in the most important Milan university there is a cannabis smokers area in which you can smoke without any problems and also the teachers know it but they just think it's normal for young people to do drugs.
So...no problem for tourist or students in general.
The big problem of this new law is that ..nothing will really change...but the one who will be found from a policeman in a bad moment(for him) will pay for everybody!They will take your driving license up to six months and you will have to show you stopped smoking to get the license back.
It will be tolerated 250 mg of thc chrystals not 250mg of hash or weed...it's pretty different!
Anyway we have to fight with a big effort this new terrible fascist law..the only way is to fight without violence and with civil disobedience actions. There is only this way!!!
Berlusconi doesn't care about drugs..if he could he would open a cannabis mc.donald.. he is for this law just for the coalition in which there are the old fascist party that says "no drugs for dying but ideals for living"..there is nothing to do with these people...sorry!
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civil disobediance

Postby reggie the dog » Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:01 am

I live in France about 100KM from the Italian frontier. I have seen cannabis smoking areas in our universities in Paris and in Toulon. People smoke joints in the central square of my small town of 5000 people and no one bats an eye. The cops do not enforce the law here and supposedly the punishment for a joint is 10 years in jail. From what I saw of the seaside towns in Italy near the French frontier the same happens in Italy even though the punishment is non-existant there today. If the law changes I dont think the practice of sitting down, pulling out a bag of grass or a stick of hash, rolling and then smoking a joint in public like it is legal will change. What will the cops do put a third of the people between 15 and 50 in jail?????
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itally, france, always illegal...

Postby qahouaji » Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:56 am

no, reggie--

the statues say that possession is punishable by up to 1 year in jail. but yes, it isn't often enforced; in fact, most of the cases don't get to court.

it's something that we americans have a lot of trouble understanding, because all of our cases do get to court. you can consider yourselves lucky....

well, I hope to see you all in december. I'm serving up my nuts for this one, but yeah, I hope to be there soon.

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SCOTLAND THE GRAVE

Postby OLD TIMER HOBBIT » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:24 am

In Scotland its two years for even a dozen plants BECAUSE IN TODAYS
paper a pro cannabis M.P told of a case where a guy who had cancer was done for that ammount and got two years I could send someone a copy by snailmail to prove it also another guy got six months for one spliffs worth while a guyhigh on alcohol that smashed his wifes head against a bus stop got a £200 fine.
Unlike England and like the U.S.A we have the D.E.A. and according to a friend living here from Baltimore said there were a lot of American drug enforcers working along the Scots cops and been told to concentrate more on cannabis than hard drugs.
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